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My dear friends:
I am a person from a eastern country ,so, I am not very familiar with ENGLISH.
I found this forum this month by chance.I think this forum is the best one I've found on internet because many people give helps to others who have questions about hiv.
I have some questions here,please give me the right answers.I've seen the forums about hiv in my country,but they confused me a lot.
1、I had a unpretected oral sex with a prostitute(she suckde me),May 24,2007.And then,she usesd her genitalia to rubbed over mine lightly until I ejaculated.I think I had no cuts in my genitalia. I DID NOT ENTER HER VAGINA.Were these risky?Was there any risk for me to get hiv?
2、I"ve seen many forums in my country,some of them said no risk,some said could not completly avoid the risk.But,however,did I have any risk?Should I need to have a test about hiv?WHY there are so many different answers?
3、After two weeks,at June 9,I began to feel a little bit hot,tired,that was my all symptoms,until June 21.These symptoms scared me ,because I know the infection of hiv has a "acute infection period". Were these symptoms cause by the hiv virus?
I don't have the courage to test,and I can not face the result if it will be bad.
I think I need your help because all of you are so Professional and kind.I"m waiting for your answers.
Many thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: Today at 05:56:15 AM »
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can,
Nothing you describe is a risk for hiv infection. Getting a blowjob is not a risk. Rubbing genitals without penetration (also known as frottage) is not a risk for hiv either. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that primarily occurs INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.
Although you do NOT need to test over this specific incident,
anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
Ann
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« Reply #2 on: Today at 02:27:32 PM »
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Ann,
Thank you very much for giving me the help.
What about the symptoms I had few days earlier? Do you have the saying that called "the acute infection period"?
"If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results."I rarely go to that kind of place ,and have sexually active with a prostitute.That's why I worried a lot about this specific incident.
In fact,I'm a Chinese.To have a sexually active with prostitute is rare for me although such kind of things are common now for a man in my country. Some of the forums,including some experts in my country,called my behavior as a 'high risky behavior',and they suggested me to have a test about hiv because they can't be sure about the risk.They never told me it is no risk for my behavior.
Is it a 'high risky behavior'? If I have the test,can I fully expect the result negative?
Thank you for your kind help again,and sorry for my poor ENGLISH.
I just want to be sure I'm not in danger,so,I can start my life again.
Many thanks.
非常感谢！
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« Reply #3 on: Today at 02:39:52 PM »
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“Getting a blowjob is not a risk”.
But what about getting a unprotected blowjob?
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« Reply #4 on: Today at 03:15:02 PM »
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Getting a blowjob period is not a risk for HIV.
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In the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single case documented of transmission from someone getting a blowjob.
It's safe to say you aren't going to make history by becoming the first.
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Ngay ả caí này cũng NO RISK luôn, đọc kỹ nhé!Truong hop ở đây là: Hai DV dí sát vào nhau, cọ vào nhau, giả sử có một ít tinh dịch từ DV nguoi nay chảy qua người kia thì có sao kô! XIn thưa: KÔ SAO HẾT! itasparz Member OfflinePosts: 6 | | « on: June 16, 2007, 12:27:52 PM » | |
Hello,
This is a great forum. I really admire your common sense approach, it helps A LOT.
However, there's a nagging question on my mind. I had an encounter that involved penis head to penis head contact. Now, there was no cum and I'm fairly sure no precum involved but you know how it is, the 'what if' syndrome kicks in and there's a lot of nagging doubts. Which isn't helped by looking at another forum with mixed messages.
So if you're penis to penis and hypothetically precum gets onto the tip of your penis straight from the other person - is there a risk?
Thanks in advance. | | | | | Andy Velez Global Moderator Member OfflinePosts: 3,583 | | « Reply #1 on: June 16, 2007, 12:41:00 PM » | |
That kind of contact will not put you at risk for HIV transmission. HIV is a fragile and not easily transmitted virus. It doesn't happen through such contact or mutual masturbation, frottage and various other sexual play of that sort.
Please read our lesson on Transmission if you haven't already done so. There's a like to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section and you get all of the basics there.
You don't have any cause for concern about HIV in relation to this recent incident.
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Andy Velez | | | itasparz Member OfflinePosts: 6 | | « Reply #2 on: June 16, 2007, 12:42:48 PM » | |
Thank you. I have read it but honestly, my mind is not working as logically as it should do these days! I realize that anxiety is my problem. I'm working on it.
Again, thank you for the reply and thank you for the work you do here. The logical responses here are so much more useful than the 'theoretical' or the 'negligible' that I see elsewhere.
Best of luck to you all. | | | | | Andy Velez Global Moderator Member OfflinePosts: 3,583 | | « Reply #3 on: June 16, 2007, 04:22:40 PM » | |
Good. I'm glad that you found our exchange to be helpful. I understand there's a big difference between reading material and being responded to directly, especially when your mind is coming up with ill-founded scare scenarios. Happily you're ok this time.
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Andy Velez | | | itasparz Member OfflinePosts: 6 | | « Reply #4 on: June 16, 2007, 07:17:17 PM » | |
Indeed. I would just like to ask one more thing though, and that's a similar question, and I think I already know the answer but docking foreskin to a circumcized penis with the presence of precum - also non-risk, right? I imagine so because it fits with the acts of frottage, etc., it's just as you say - these neurotic possibilities that play through my head. | | | | | matty.the.damned Member OnlinePosts: 3,199 Resident Evil Genius | | « Reply #5 on: June 16, 2007, 07:24:10 PM » | |
Itsa,
No, docking is not a risk for HIV infection.
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OK, thanks a lot! | | | | | itasparz Member OfflinePosts: 6 | | « Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 07:45:47 AM » | |
I'm sorry for bothering you all again, I don't want to seem overly neurotic and I know I am...but by tip of the penis, I meant specifically the urethra/hole area - so if you're rubbing the two heads of your penises, facing opposite each other and the precum from someone else goes directly onto that area -- it's still no risk, right? Because it's outside of the body, technically and HIV is transmitted inside? | | | | | Ann Global Moderator Member OfflinePosts: 6,083 It just is, OK? | | « Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 07:52:22 AM » | |
ita,
We all know how a penis is constructed and we know what happens when the heads of two of them get together. We know that hiv transmission does NOT happen when penises collide and slide.
Seriously, we know what you're saying - and we're saying NO RISK.
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Thank you very much Ann.
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Ngay ca truong hop này, khi cô ta "thổi kèn" xong, và anh chàng nọ thấy có máu ở cái khăn cô ta dùng lau miệng, vẫn kô có nguy cơ HIV! Lý do: Trong miệng có nuóc bọt rất kỵ với HIV, luong máu ở các vết thương trong miệng kô đủ để làm lây HIV! Điều này cho thấy, OR chỉ là nguy cơ lý thuyết! ĐỌc và tìm hiểu:
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1841.0
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HUY sẽ dành thoi gian nào đó chọn lọc các bài và post lên DD này, đủ tư thế, đủ kiểu luôn he! | Cùng nhau tham gia ký tên đấu tranh quyền lợi của NCH:http://forum.hiv.com.vn/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172763 |
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Anh Huy cho hỏi truong hợp mình liếm âm đạo của cô gái thì sao ?
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Hoan hô! Anh Huy hay quá.
Nhưng sẽ là tốt hơn nếu anh có thể dịch một vài ý chính đính kèm vào đó, vì em thấy trong diễn đàn mình ít người biết tiếng Anh lắm
Những người biết Tiếng anh thì họ đã vào website của aidsmeds để hỏi trực tiếp rồi. | Bạn đang lo lắng về HIV, Bạn đang hoang mang, đang mất tinh thần. Bạn cứ ĐT Tôi: .. Vui lòng không nhắn tin,chỉ chia sẻ điện thoại trực tiếp. |
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đúng là em cũng đã thử vào đọc nhưng cũng chỉ hiểu sơ sơ nội dung thôi.Hi vọng các anh có thể dịch một số ý quan trọng.
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Thank you,Rapidrod and Andy Velez.Excuse me,I think my puzzle is :What you've told me is a little bit different from what I was told in my country.
Insertive unprotected blowjob(being sucked ) People in my country told me such kind of behavior should have hiv test,because it is called "high risk behavior".Although the possibility is theoretically,but it can be happen(if the girl has blood in her mouth,and my genital has cuts),so can not 100% to avoid the virus.Here,all of you told me it is not necessary to have a hiv test because there is no risk.The different anwsers confused me.
Can you tell me why? Is it the different way of thinking between east and west?
Thank you.
Mình dich 1 đoạn nhỏ nhé:Mặc dù chỉ là lý thuyết nhưng nó có thể xảy ra(nếu ban nữ mà máu trong miệng,và dương vật bị xước)ko thể bảo đảm 100% rằng ko bị nhiễm.Câu trả lời ở châu âu và á khác nhau làm mình loạn cả lên.Ở Âu thì ng` ta bảo đảm rằng blowjob ko lây HIV
Và Ann là chuyên gia tư vấn đã trả lời:
Sometimes people use scare tactics to make people behave how they want. This is very true when it comes to anything related to sex, where many believe you should not be having sexual relations outside a traditional, heterosexual marriage.
Here at AIDSmeds we believe that as long as you protect yourself and do no harm to your partner, it doesn't matter who you're having sex with. It's your choice, not ours.
We stick to scientific fact, not moral judgements or our ideas of how you live your life. And the scientific fact is that hiv will not be transmitted to you when you get a blowjob.
Dịch tạm:có 1 vài ng` dung` những tro` vặt để làm sợ hãi bạn.Cac nc á châu thi` ng` ta ko muốn có quan hệ trc hôn nhân.Và câu cuối là theo khoa học thực tế thì HIV KO lây khi bạn có hành vi blowjob.(các bạn nhớ đọc xem ng` hỏi hỏi gì nhé,DV bị xước và miệng bạn tình chảy máu)
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